things I wish I'd said
[ Originally published in 1999 and lovingly salvaged from the WayBack archive ]
The Chameleons were a band formed in 1981 Middleton, north Manchester, England who released three albums before they split up in 1987.
The Chameleons consisted of Mark Burgess (bass, vocals), Dave Fielding (guitar), Reg Smithies (guitar) and John Lever (drums).
I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that when I first saw the Chameleons live, I barely noticed them. They were supporting U2 at the prestigious venue known as the University of Warwick Arts Centre in late 1981. At the time, U2 were relatively unknown too outside indy circles. I remember Bono slagging off the Radio 1 PlayList when introducing 'Fire'.
Anyway, my first memory of the Chameleons was Mark walking on to the stage in front of probably 200 people in the Arts Centre (probably held 1500) muttering what later transpired to be the immortal words -
'Hi - we're the Chameleons and we're from Manchester'
Of course, everyone was drinking elsewhere or talking and waiting for U2. It wasn't until the summer of 1982 that I heard a session by The Chameleons on Piccadilly radio (local Manchester radio station). I still have the tape of that session - the songs included 'Monkeyland' and 'Fan The Bellows'
After that I saw the Chameleons play quite a few times mainly in Manchester (Ritzy's, Hacienda, Salford College). The Manchester gigs were great and notable for the large devoted Middleton contingent. I'd only been to the Hacienda once before and it struck me as an overpriced, overrated venue. It had big screens with flashing images and clips from obscure, cult movies like 'Attack of the Killer Tomatoes'. It was brilliant to hear the 'Chameleons Barmy Army' blasting out and people invading the stage, leaping around and generally antagonising the FAC51 bouncers.
At that time, I used to watch Manchester United quite a lot as well. I used to go to most home games and some away games. It struck me that the atmosphere at Chameleons gigs was quite similar to a United away game. Both events were preceded by pre-match drinking and a great sense of expectation. There was probably more tension and (threat of) violence at the football. In fact, the atmosphere at Chameleons gigs was brilliant and although the gigs were very physical - a lot of leaping around and stage diving - I don't actually remember any fighting. At other concerts (mainly The Smiths and The Fall) I went to around the same time, there was such a mixture of people (Punks, Skins, students, bouncers etc) there, the undercurrent of violent tension was always there and sometimes erupted.
I also have hazy memories of trying and failing to see The Chameleons (summer '82) at the Marquee in London (sold out) and again with a few mates at the Camden Palace. This was a bizarre gig. Mark's voice was knackered - they must have been in the middle of a lengthy tour. After a couple of songs, Mark invited the audience to come up and share the singing. Unsurprisingly it wasn't quite as good as the real thing and the lads had to end the set. All the expectation, waiting and drinking was for nothing - what an anti-climax.
Things he did say
I had an exchange of emails with Mark Burgess in late 1998. I've published it here in case it's of interest.
Things I wish I'd said
I have some bootleg tapes of varying quality of Chameleons concerts. Here's a complete list of the gigs with the set-lists including any notable quotes by Mark in between songs.
- Derby Hall, Bury (3 July 1981)
- Derby Hall, Bury (1982 date unknown)
- 666 Club, Manchester (1 May 1982)
- Fulham Greyhound, London (4 August 1983)
- Futurama, Leeds (18 September 1983)
- Bremen, Germany (20 December 1983)
- Hacienda, Manchester (6 April 1984)
- Camden Palace, London (11 September 1984)
- Luxor Theatre, Koln, Germany (20 June 1985)
- Frankfurt, Germany (23 November 1986)
- Manchester International (12 September 1986)
Derby Hall, Bury (3 July 1981)
First ever live concert as the Chameleons.
Don't Fall
In Shreds
On The Beach
Up The Down Escalator
We don't use set lists, you know what I mean. We play what we feel like playing on the spur of the moment so things get a bit quiet inbetween so you'll have to make your own entertainment. Bit like Joy Division when they played here. Anyone heard of them ? Breaking Glass [JD song title]
...like my white socks, know what I mean, new song, new faces. This is about the old faces.
Endless Space
This is a song about wanting to live forever. This is called Films.
Films
Thank you very much indeed. Ta. This is the last one I'm afraid. Well we know you've all got buses to catch and things so we won't keep you. It's called Monkeyland. (Dave) - This set, right, we going to dedicate it to Adrian 'cos we've known him for quite a bit but we haven't seen him for ages and he's played with us a few times. We've made a cassette - it's as good as the set list so if you want to buy it. This is Reg's favourite, Monkeyland. Some people think it's the best one. Monkeyland Raucous cheering, applause, shouts of 'Stay On'.
Monkeyland
Yeah, sound. Unfortunately...oh alright 'In Shreds', it is.
In Shreds
Derby Hall, Bury (1982 date unknown)
Quite early from the set and lack of audience fervour. If anyone know the exact date of this gig, please let me know.
Intro (tuning up)
Good evening. We're the Boomtown Rats, ha ha, my little joke. In actual fact we are The Chameleons.
Fan The Bellows
(inaudible) ...This is a song which reflects that... (inaudible) Standing on the corner (?) A song about the senseless waste of good people. It's called 'Here Today'.
Here Today
I'm falling from grace with myself again - happens all the time.
Falling from Grace
Reverb please. We're going to do a song called 'Nostalgia'. Like most of them, Reg wrote the song.
Nostalgia
(almost inaudible) If anyone sees a set list, let us know. (loud feedback). Ow. Yeah. Got it...This is a song called 'Looking Inwardly'.
Looking Inwardly
This has got a rather strange title. This song is so new we haven't even learned it properly so if it falls apart, you'll forgive us, won't you ? No. Oh alright then. It's called 'Singing Rule Britannia (as the walls close in)'
Rule Britannia
Goodnight. Thank you. God bless.
666 Club, Manchester (1 May 1982)
Excellent sound quality.
Intro
Hi. We're The Chameleons. We are as organised as ever. This song's called 'Don't Fall'.
Don't Fall
Thank you. Back, fresh from our extensive tour of outer Mesopotamia. Welcome home boys. Up the down escalator.
Up The Down Escalator
We don't have set lists you see. we just play what we feel like playing so you'll have to be patient. This one's called 'Endless Space'.
Endless Space
The story of making a record.
In Shreds
This is called 'Films' uh, uh, uh.
Films
It must be very nice to be trendy, I would not sit in the bar and on the balcony.
Bleak and industrial we're not, and never will be - not for you, or you, up there, 'cos we don't f**kin' care.
This song is for these people who at least listened, you know and made some sort of enthusiastic motions.
This is called 'Things I wish I'd said'. We've got to go after this one - we can't have you all...
Things I Wish I'd Said
Beggars in the sky
Fulham Greyhound, London (4 August 1983)
This is a small venue on Fulham Palace Road. Little more than a long, narrow pub.
A Person isn't Safe
Thank you very much. Thursday's child has far to go.
Thursday's Child
Jane, I've forgotten to bring my drink up. Could you bring us one ? Who is ? (to requests for 'In Shreds') (audience replies 'You') Yeah - right.
Perfume Garden
Monkeyland
This song's not about sex but it could be, you know. It's called 'Pleasure and Pain'.
Pleasure and Pain
Don't Fall
Well you reach the point where you know it's only your second skin.
Films
A song about being...(inaudible)
Here Today
Thank you.
Rule Britannia
Paper Tigers
In Shreds
View from a hill
Thank you very much. Good night.
Nostalgia
Thank you.
As High as You Can Go
Futurama, Leeds (18 September 1983)
All day festival featuring several bands. These gigs often ran to a tight schedule so note the lack of the usual encores.
Good afternoon. Yes, we found it, yes. I don't want you to think I'm a pop merchant or anything but I've had the shits about this gig since tea time yesterday so if I make a few mistakes - well you know ?
Just a second while Dave gets to grips with the technology.
Don't Fall
Thank you.
Here Today
Well you reach the point when you know it's only your second skin...
Films
Thank you. (faint chants of 'Chameleons Barmy Army' and 'Manchester La, la, la' - MUFC football chant)
A Person Isn't Safe
Thursday's Child
Up The Down Escalator
Perfume Garden
Thank you.
In Shreds
Thank you. Well, it really has been fun. This is the last one.
Less Than Human
Thank you. Goodnight.
Bremen, Germany (20 December 1983)
Don't Fall
Thank you. We're going to do a song for you now called 'Here Today'.
Here Today
Danke Schon. Oh yeah - it's a nice coat, very nice coat. That's not it, is it ?
Thursday's Child
You can rip the seats up, if you want, you know. You can rip 'em out, if you want, and throw them away with our permission. This is the first seated gig we've ever done - you know what I mean - it's a bit weird.
A Person Isn't Safe
Less Than Human
Danke Schon. You might have noticed a slight technical hitch during that number but it doesn't matter, does it ? No - it doesn't matter. Good. This is called 'Pleasure and Pain'.
Pleasure and Pain
Ta. When your mate comes back, can you tell him if he walks on the stage again, I'm going to kick him in the teeth. This is called - what is it called ? Oh, we haven't got a title - it's a new one, is it ? Oh all right.
Films
Danke Schon. This is called 'Paper Tigers'.
Paper Tigers
MonkeyLand
Danke Schon.
One Flesh
Thank you very much. Ta.
Rule Britannia
Up The Down Escalator
View From A Hill
Hacienda, Manchester (6 April 1984)
Typical, packed, frenetic Manchester gig. Actually went to this one which is the main reason I bought the tape. Poor sound quality and precious few quotes between the songs. I think this was probably because Mark had to contend with sporadic fighting between over enthusiastic fans trying to get onto the stage and Hacienda 'doormen'. Also the Hacienda stage is quite small and I remember the band seemed to be quite cramped.
Intro
Thanks for coming down (audience 'You what '). I said - Thanks for coming down (loud cheers) (inaudible)..in case the backdrop comes down.
Don't Fall
Chants of 'Chameleons' Barmy Army'.
Return of the Roughnecks
A Person Isn't Safe
Thursday's Child
Wish I could tell you about a new record but I can't.
Here Today
Pleasure and Pain
Stop fighting - the light's are coming down.
Perfumed Garden
More chants of 'Chameleons' Barmy Army' and 'On the Stage'.
Monkeyland
Films
Intrigue in Tangiers
Paper Tigers
In Shreds
Rule Britannia
Splitting in Two
Ta. I'd just like say again Thanks for coming 'cos I know it's good here.
Up The Down Escalator
Don't Fall
Camden Palace, London (11 September 1984)
Don't Fall
Not having set lists has caused problems for these camera men. This is called 'Intrigue'.
Intrigue In Tangiers
Thanks. It's very nice. You skimped a bit on the dressing rooms though. It smells like bad eggs down there, in the bowels of the place. This is called 'Monkeyland'.
Monkeyland
Now then, now then what shall we play next ? (audience shouts requests) What ? Yeah, yeah. This is 'Second Skin'.
Films
Every time we do a gig, Reg drinks my drink and there's never any left for me. Do you want some Ribena ? 'Shreds' (audience). No. Rule Britannia.
Rule Britannia
(requests) Pleasure and pain ? Yeah - we'll do 'Pleasure and Pain' - we like that.
Pleasure and Pain
Don't forget keeping in time is very welcome, know what I mean ? What ? Yeah. Shall we play that ? Yeah - we'll do 'Roughnecks'. This is called 'Return of the Roughnecks'.
Return of the Roughnecks
Do you know when we'll have another record out ? (pause) Know what that means ? F**k knows. (laughter). Well let's play 'A Person Isn't Safe' 'cos we like that. Well we like 'em all but, you know, you have your favourites, don't you ?
A Person Isn't Safe
In Shreds
Luxor Theatre, Koln, Germany (20 June 1985)
Intro
Good evening everybody (whispered).
A Person isn't Safe
Thank you, Danke schon.
(aside) Andy - there's some problems with the keyboard, can you not hear it ?
Just a few problems. Ees OK.
Rule Britannia.
Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you.
A Person Isn't Safe
Return of the Roughnecks
Monkeyland
Oi - are you ready ?
Less Than Human
In Shreds
Intrigue In Tangiers
Danke Schon.
Paper Tigers
I am thanking you very much.
Pleasure and pain
Films
You're a long way from home (to request for 'Don't Fall'). This is called 'Home is where the heart is'
Home is where the heart is
Danke Schon. Auf wiedersehen.
Tomorrow Never Comes
Don't Fall
Thank you very much. Goodbye.
Frankfurt, Germany (23 November 1986)
Intro (unknown, jolly little instrumental ditty)
Swamp Thing
Mad Jack
Don't look back. If you want to dance, Jack.
A Person Isn't Safe.
Thank you very much. How are you ? Excuse the manners but I have a cold. That was about the rape of a woman. This is about the rape of a country and he starts it. 'Come on Mark' (audience). I am coming on.
Rule Britannia
Right. Another little happy song for you.
Less Than Human
Paradiso
Home Is Where The Heart Is
(Pause, audience shouts, tuning up). Sorry about that. All the lonely people, where do they all come from ?
Soul In Isolation
Intersperses bits of 'Mad Jack'
Splitting In Two
Is it a question of a University degree in Sociology ? Mark improvises snippets of a Fall song 'Rowche Rumble' - My baby's on Valium, my baby's on Valium - Rowche Rumble, ROWCHE RUMBLE is Valium'.
Manchester International (12 September 1986)
Great atmosphere. Great songs. Great concert. Great quotes. Only wish I'd been there.
Swamp Thing
Blimey, we are in demand aren't we ? This song's called 'Mad Jack'
Mad Jack
Ta. I'd like to make conversation you know, but my voice is going. You work me too hard - you know what I mean. All for 10 quid a week.
A Person Isn't Safe
Rule Britannia
Less Than Human
Tell 'em to move back ? Who do you think I am ? Moses ? Can you move back, he says. Move back. King Canute.
Paradiso
Home Is Where The Heart Is.
The management (laughs) has asked me to ask you : 'Would you please not stand on each other's shoulders ?' (audience roars). I suggest the next time he puts a crowd like this on, he loads them in in stacker trucks.
Soul In Isolation
Films
Pleasure and Pain
Caution
Be seeing you. Goodbye. You're showing your age there, aren't you (to requests for 'In Shreds') ?
Tomorrow Never Comes
Mark improvises 'I won't get fooled again' at the end.
You must have come here five years ago. Do you want me to tell you what 'In Shreds' was like or what ? (Mimics intro to 'In Shreds') No we're not doing 'In Shreds' but we're not, we're the bunch who wrote this.
Splitting in Two.
Mark improvises a few lines including 'Pass the paracetamol', 'Cha Cha Cha' (Marquis Cha Cha by The Fall ?) and then does a Chameleons on 45 compendium, including 'Strange Times' and 'Mad Jack'.
Is it a question of a University degree in Sociology ?
This tape then runs into a Bunnymen gig with 'Do It Clean' during which Ian McCulloch is also paying tribute to The Fall by interspersing verses from 'Totally Wired'.